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Lootrules

Lleu's picture

Since raiding has started again and we have a lot of new guildies, I thought it'd be smart to put a write up on our lootproces during raids on the front page.

Read more to read it all! ; )

General

During raids, we devide the loot according to wow-loot.com. This means we have 5 kinds of rolls:
1. Need for priority classes
2. Need for secundary classes
3. Need for tertiary classes
4. Offspec
5. Greed (DE)

10 seconds to roll

The masterlooter will call the rolls according to priority classes. When your class is called for and want to needroll for that item, do so within 10 seconds or say pass. Please drop your roll right away; waiting to see if you can outroll someone or consider rather giving the item to someone else is nice, but it usually takes an unneccasery amount of time. If you're not sure the item is an upgrade, yell "WAIT" in raidchat. This way, the masterlooter will extend the rolltime. Also, it takes an unnecassery amount of time to wait for people to say pass. Additional to the 10 seconds rule, this means when you stay silent during the roll, you automatically pass. So:

1. Drop your roll or pass within 10 seconds
2. Yell "WAIT" in raidchat if you're not sure the item is an upgrade
3. Silence means passing

Some little facts to make masterlooting even easier

1. During the lootphase, move all the talk that doesn't have to do with rolling to /say. Especially with the 10 seconds rule where people are yelling "WAIT" in /raidchat, this is extremely important. So please move your praises about the good fight, congratulations, etc. to /say ; )
2. It's also easy when you know in advance if the boss we downed could drop loot you might need. Even though it isn't necassery to look the loot every boss up, it could be something to look into ; ) For people who don't put that much interest in that kind of stuff; you can always yell "WAIT" in /raidchat to buy yourself some extra time and compare the item to what you currently have.
3. During the lootphase, you can already see what loot the boss dropped when you loot your badges (with the dust covered chest at the kara chess event as an exception ; ). This way you can already see what dropped and decide for yourself wheter you'd like to have it or not.
4. During the lootphase, don't whisper the masterlooter and leave discussions about the lootingprocedure until after the raid.
5. During the lootphase, don't go to the toilet or get a drink; the raidleader will schedule those times. That way you can miss out on valuable offspec loot or info, not to mention fun.

Happy raiding!

Two things I like to add

Neti's picture

Two things I like to add from my own experience as Master Looter:
1) Please do not roll on an item *before* the Master Looter has typed the roll call for that item in raid chat. And certainly do not roll twice. Doing so can easily lead to confusion and interference with fair loot distribution.
2) Most of the time Master Looters use the ClassLoot addon (which is an electronic version of wow-loot.com) to decide the correct roll order. If you install this addon yourself, you can easily see for which classes and in which order the Master Looter will do the roll calls.

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Keirin's picture

Nice and clear Laughing out loud And lovely graphic Lleu Laughing out loud

Hehe thanks, everything gets

Lleu's picture

Hehe thanks, everything gets better with paintsplatters ; )

Loot Rules Update - 2010

matzy's picture

All of the above still applies, however with the advent of dual spec and more of us having ALTs that are able to raid, we felt the need to codify some elements of Loot Rules that we already practice.

I am attending a raid on an ALT (main spec)

You can roll within reason, and only with ML approval* (especially if there is a raider on his/her main toon and main spec that needs said item) on gear for your ALT (main spec).

I am attending a raid on an ALT (secondary spec)

You can roll within reason, and only with ML approval* (especially if there is a raider on his/her main toon and main spec that needs said item) on gear for your ALT (main spec).

You can roll on gear for your ALT (secondary spec), but only if there is no raider on his main toon and main spec that requires said item BUT you will have priority over all other persons rolling for offspec.

I am attending a raid on my MAIN (secondary spec)

You can roll on gear for your MAIN (main spec) gear in the usual manner.

You can roll on gear for your MAIN (secondary spec) gear only if there is no raider on his main toon and main spec that requires said item BUT you will have priority over all other persons rolling for offspec.

* - this responsibility should really rest only with an experienced ML (for the most part, an officer) ... so in some cases this may be a decision for "the Loot Council" a.k.a the officers online at the time!

Did I miss something?

I am reading through your rules and found here something I am not familiar with. What are priority classes, secundary classes, tertiary classes ? Or did I miss that in another guide?

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The priority of classes is

Dommens's picture

The priority of classes is based on how much his/her class needs the loot.
A hunter would need a bow more than a rogue so the hunter gets priority over the rogue.
Hunter is here a primairy class, and the rogue the secondairy.

Same goes for leather loot. The rogue gets there the priority over hunter.
There the rogue is primairy and the hunter secondary.

Leo, it's based on the info

Akaryxn's picture

Leo, it's based on the info from www.wow-loot.com

Classloot

Tuanur's picture

A simple way to determine this inside a raid is by using the adon classloot. It puts up information in the items tooltip which displays priority classes and secondary classes.

Primary classes are displayed with 5 stars, secundary 4 and if more with 3 and so on.

So in the bow example above, you would see 5 stars with Hunter behind it and 4 stars with rogue behind it. Wink

More understanding

Aha! That explains the 3 categories. For the most part I understand how the list is made, but there are a few weird choices - it seems to me that spirit gear should diverse more while mp5 (which is rather useless in raids) should diverse less between classes. But I understand the system now, it makes sense to use this as general ruler. Thanks for explaining.

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Masterlooter

Tuanur's picture

Leonora wrote:

Aha! That explains the 3 categories. For the most part I understand how the list is made, but there are a few weird choices - it seems to me that spirit gear should diverse more while mp5 (which is rather useless in raids) should diverse less between classes. But I understand the system now, it makes sense to use this as general ruler. Thanks for explaining.

Well, the masterlooter (mostly an guild officer) is the one who makes final decisions regarding loot, but most of this time it works out well with this system.

And well, if you eventually run ICC a lot, most primary classes have it already and secondary (or even offspec) can drop a roll. Or for example a Warrior rolling on leather because of better stats than the plate equivalent, if it otherwise would be DEed.

The main thing is that I want

Wilgje's picture

The main thing is that I want to have a stable ruleset in place, which the site provides. It's not always perfect but it helps keep things in balance Smile

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