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Rules: Mains, alts and raiding

If after this, you still have questions, add it in a comment and we'll add it to the post for future reference! Smile

The main thing (no pun intended) is that we expect you to choose one of your characters as your Main (which is the character that gets the main rank ingame), making your other characters Alts. We expect you to focus all your game efforts into this character, by way of gearing up via raids.

This has a simple reason: the more reliable and constant the raid groups we put out (same characters), the higher the success rate in short term and long term. Short term, because people will be most familiar with the one character in various raid situations; long term, because we won't have to endlessly run the same instances over and over and over and over to make sure every alt and their pony is epicced out. Wink
It is also fairer because everyone in the raid is allowed to roll for loot (provided they can use it and it's an upgrade), and in theory one poor rogue could lose rolls for that one epic dagger he wants to people's alts ten times in a row.

FAQ below - please also answer our Main versus Alts poll so we can get an idea of where you stand, and if we should approach you about a main change Smile

FAQ

Q:Am I expected to raid with the first character I levelled to 80?
A: If that isn't your main, why did you level it first? Smile If everyone would level alts before the main they want to raid with, it could create situations where some people get frustrated with the time it takes for us to get into raiding, while others feel pushed to level. We hope for a situation where we find the middle way and can offer raid content to people in 1 to 2 weeks. Smile

Q: How does priority on runs work? Do mains have priority over alts?
A: From the Invite rules: "If a player has one or more alts all characters of this player will go to the bottom of the list when he has joined a raid with one of these characters. This is to prevent that a player can come with another character every raid, which would make it harder for players with only one character to join. This rule does not apply if a player is asked to join with an alt to prevent that a raid needs to be cancelled. In that case only the alt will go to the bottom of the list."

Tinse: So basically you could have 300 alts in the KIL list, but only 1 of your characters would ever go, and afterwards all your characters would be dumped to the bottom of the list.
Wilgje: This does harm yourself as you acquire gear at half the rate as everyone else, as well as weakens the group that does gear up at a normal rate. So we ask everyone to use common decency! If we notice you switch around a lot especially in the first months, we will have a chat!

Q: What do I do if I have multiple characters and am not sure yet?
A: You have two options:
1. Committing to one character while you try it out, and letting us as officers know in advance you want to participate and see how this role fits you, and might go back to the other character; or
2. Postponing the choice, levelling both your characters to endgame level, and going on a raid with the character you're not sure of to see what that's like.

We understand if you want to go option two, but I'd like to point out that we don't want to create situations where you 'try raids' for weeks on end Wink

Q: Does an alt get equal priority on loot?
A: Yes. The main reason why is because it is fair. Everyone who is present during a kill is allowed to roll. Our invite system (who gets priority to go) is the 'filter'; we don't want to prioritize attendance AND be forced to prioritize loot rolling. (which is complicated enough as it is) Smile

and in theory one poor rogue

Lleu's picture

and in theory one poor rogue could lose rolls for that one epic dagger he wants to people's alts ten times in a row.

That wouldn't be me, I usually snatch away the epic daggers on the first drop ; )

On the last question I have a remark though; according to the pre-wotlk lootrules, it was considered politeness and even for the lootmaster to keep an eye out that alts pass on loot in favor of mains. Can I take it this isn't the case anymore, and alts and mains roll equally on prioritized loot now?

Perhaps that's something we

AdminWilgje's picture

Perhaps that's something we need to discuss, but right now I would say that the lootmaster is not there to forbid rolls but to make sure everyone is considerate of eachother.

I think from what i have

Gorthandel's picture

I think from what i have seen/know about the guild and have experienced, people would pass if it was a known Alt v's main roll.. not because they *had* to but because they would want to. I know i would.

Tbh I'd pass if items drop

Raikir's picture

Tbh I'd pass if items drop for an alt that has more use for somebody else's main. I don't see the point to snatch gear away for an alt I play less time with compared to somebody else's main. While I would roll for it when it's for somebody else's offspec because I don't see an alt as less then an offspe,hoever I might be the only one that thinks like this (if that makes any sense Tongue).

On the other hand some people (altough discouraged to do this) really enjoy their alt more and switch mains altough they did not expect it.Or somebody brings an alt that helps or supports guild progress might "deserve" to roll for shiny loot for the sake of the guild.
(Think about a DPS main that helps get that second or third Naxx group together with a tanking alt.)

While I sketched out some circumstances I think it's better to keep it simple and let everybody in the raid roll for loot. To keep track of all eventualities and make the lootmaster's wow-life a living hell just doesn't make sense when we have an excellent invite system.

With this system it is advisable to gear up a main because with 2 chars you will need a lot more time to gear up which might very well end up with you getting behind other people's mains and miss out on guildexperiences and progress.

So in my opinion this policy makes sense and ...

/signed!

Just my 2 cents.

I don't think you're the

AdminWilgje's picture

I don't think you're the only one that thinks like this - to all of you who read this post: if the above seems more than obvious to you, kudos Wink
Time has shown though that there are always a few that don't understand, or can't understand why some rules are the way they are. An explanation well in advance is fair to them as well as honest to the people who just assumed. Smile

Personally I see alts and offspec as something at the same level, but if people will just focus on their main and only bring an alt as an exception, in my opinion they'd be allowed to roll just the same as others, as long as they keep an eye on those that have mains in the run and have put in a lot of effort to get the group where it is. Smile

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